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So you know how all the sprites for the Weapons are in Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, right?

...Not all of them? Well, I found these on The Spriters Resource that are for the game. Notice that there are not ripped by me, since I got them from the forementioned site itself. You'll also notice that the weapons have different colors as well. They are ordered from left to right: Common, Rare, and Legendary. The sprite next to the, let's say Common Sword, it's a modified, yet, higher rank sword.

Another example is the Light Saber on the bottom right of the whole arsenal (not the monochrome ones at the bottom). Next to it is the Yoshitsuna, the 'evolved' form if you will of the former. Here are the sprites ripped by CrimsonPenguin (if he has an account on here, I hope e doesn't mind if I show these without his permission)

Swords

Spears

Axes

Bows (note the sprite similar next to the one you see is an animated version)

Guns

Staves

I hope this was useful information for all of you! Post the sprites in the list of the weapons for the game! Add their three sprite versions of 'em, too!

Has anyone done this? The La Pucelle: Tactics article here is an overview and I imagine mods do not want data for that game cluttering this project. Could not find one in a search. Pucelle.wikia would be interesting. Lots of cool guides like gamefaqs.com/ps2/566126-la-pucelle-tactics/faqs/37307 have data we could adapt there.

Whatever pronect should be linked from this wiki's article and vice versa.

Was reading gamefaqs.com/ps2/589678-disgaea-hour-of-darkness/faqs/25989 and it mentions to maximize attack on an item you must subdue all specialists and fill it with gladiators before killing level 10 item general.

Can anyone verify if specialist presence on an item matters on the 10th levels? Guides say many things and it would be good to have alltheir discoveries here if they are verifiable.

I did not have this in mind when leveling my stuff. I kept the item i was leveling empty so i could use the specialists to keep my character stronger.

If slotted specialists matter, which ones do? Somepl properties like poison probably cannot transfer...

Does level of specialists matter or would 13 slots filled with level 1 gladiators be same as 13 slots filled wkth level 1000 gladiators?

Does anyone know where to find the area map images for the other Disgaea games. We have really nice map images for D1, but nothing for the other games. I've been googling a bit, to see if I can find them, but the only really nice ones I can find, are the D1 images already here on the wiki. So I was wondering where the D1 area maps came from, and if we could find the same for the later games.

It's not problem for me to put in the work to upload all the images. I just don't know where to find them.

Thanks for the help.

Hi all,

I've been experimenting with disgaeamapsinfobox template to see if there is way to make the already great template even better. I had this silly idea that it might be nice to have the information on Etna mode in a another tab. When a stage has an Etna mode counterpart, the infobox can get kind of crowded (example: Valgipus IV.) It's not dramatic, but I think less is more in some cases. And using a tabber for splitting out the Main story and Etna mode, seemed like a good idea.

Anyway, I created the sandbox page and got on with the experimenting. Template:DisgaeaMapInfobox/sandbox

The idea was to have Etna mode on a tabber, but the Etna mode tab should only be visible if and when there is any data to display. I'm not that good with coding so I knew this could take awhile :) But after a while, I started to wonder if this was even possible. It is! I found examples on another wiki but I'm unable to use the coding on our current template. I'm struggling with getting the if-function to work on the tabber and inserting the tabber without messing with the parameters.

This is the site with the examples: videogameresource.wikia.com/wiki/User:Sovq

Any help is appreciated. If we could get this to work, we could easily add more hidden tabs, like Dark World, Axel mode,... 

Many thanks!

Quick question. On the List of Disgaea maps (page), there are 2 clear sections:

1) Storyline maps: maps mandatory to progress in the story

2) Bonus maps: optional maps

Now, I've been meaning to create the map page for the optional battle against Zetta in the DS version. So I just wanted to check what would be the right course of action. Do I create a new map in the "Bonus maps"-section to... let's say "(Primordial Soup (Bonus stage)" under a new mentioning of Stellar Graveyard in the bonus maps section. Or do I expand the current page "Primordial Soup"? Though I don't know how the page would react to having 2 disgaea-map-info-boxes. Or I could use a tabber, like I did for Demonhall mirror?

I don't know if this scenario occurs in other games. But then I (or other users) can follow the same logic.

Any reaction is appreciated.

So I noticed the wiki has about 500 orphaned pages, and quite a few of those are disambiguation pages. I was wondering what the communities view is on those pages.

For example, the first page in the list is 'Brawler', a tier of the martial artist class. And the only thing the page does, is mention that. Personally, I don't feel the need for pages like that. I'd rather immediately see a list of pages related to my search query, than this kind of page which feels imcomplete.

I already voted one of those pages for deletion, before good sense kicked in and I decided to check here first.

So let me know what you think. If anything can be done, I'll add it to my 'to do' list.

Cheers!

So I was looking at the D1 list of accessories and I noticed that many of these accessories have individual pages. However, both the list-page and the individual accessory-pages contain only tables, each with half of the info. So I was thinking it would make sense to change that.

My suggestion: I think the design of the 'weapons' pages works really well and we could use that here too. We could group all the detailed info into the list-page and then a comparison/evolution of the accessories throughout the series could go on their individual pages. For the list-page, I would even suggest to use the same template as used for the weapons. The advantage of that template is that it allows the 'flavor text' and some other comments (for example: info on specialist/innocents) to be shown beneath the stats. This prevents the table from becoming too wide and needing a slider to be able to read all of it (as is the case with the D3 Lists).

Something else, but I think i'll mention it here as well. I also noticed something odd in the "template:accessories". In the "related" section, there are 2 links ('weapons' and 'accessories') that refer to their "Navigation Templates"-page, instead of to their fandom-pages. I don't know if this is intentional. If it isn't, we might want to change that. I already tried it once (without publishing the changes) and then I get a non-existing page for accessories, and an existing page for the weapons. This last page, however, redirects from 'weapons' to 'weapon' and finally to 'category:weapons'. A bit circuitous so I don't know if we can just delete those pages? I'm guessing we won't need them anymore if we have a proper weapons page. Just a question though... if any changes were to be made to this "template:accessories", would that change be implemented on all pages with that template? Or would we need to re-upload the corrected template on all those pages? (I really have no idea how this works).

So, that's about it. Interested in hearing some of your thoughts.

I have visited many wikis,like the kirby wiki,mario wiki,BC wiki,and MGE wiki,and i have noticed they have many thigs and links.But this wikia has a great step backwards in the following things:

1:Lack of Templates

The "Lack of templates" means that this wikia has only around 5 templates.The main page is crap,since it only says "Welcome to the disgaea wiki,this wiki has # articles everyone can edit!"and you scroll down,and there's just a white screen.There are basically no links to the videogame classes,glitches,or other stuff,and the videogame pages don't show links to stuff like "Classes,Stages,Skills,Evilities,etc."it only says the game's plot.This wiki needs more templates.

2:Great lack of user activity

In the forums,people barely post stuff.In this wiki,you start a discussion or publish something,no one answers your discussion.Comparing this wiki to the Kirby Wiki,in Kirby Wiki you start a discussion,and you receive around 6 or more replies in half a day,while in this wiki,you publish something and no one answers you for years.

3:High number of broken links

Looking at "List of Disgaea # classes" and other pages like that,you see many broken links (Written on red words).And it seems like people in this wikia don't fix a thing at all,they just let this wiki like this.

By the looks of this wiki,it has been here for years,and it looks like it was created weeks ago.In order to fix this,i will have to help to improve this wiki...

Some useful stategies for D4

Make your own classes and share them on this forum.

A month ago NIS gave a news is his work a Re-Release Disgaea Hour of Darkness for PC,we know is been new style and old style interface and everything from Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness.Please add this to this wiki.

Sincerely.

Czakara

P.s If link didn't work here will be to copy : store.steampowered.com/app/405900

I'm sorry but...I had to remove the D5 class template from the few pages its gone on, because it blatantly wasn't finished. Despite this, Sanna expected us to put it onto pages. Forgive me if I am overstepping my bounds here, but that just makes the wiki look sloppy if we are expecting readers to put up with blatantly unfinished templates devoid of information, without even a way for them to contribute (since as BetaDragon has shown, common users don't know how to edit the nav templates. For the record, there is a "e" on the left corner of the template which takes you to the edit page).

We need to properly make and fill out the template before we put it on pages. We need to figure out what each class is called in the context of the game (most of the class names we have up are educated guesses based on website URLs and returning classes, but those aren't set in stone either. Hi Healer! Oh, you going by Clergy now? Oh, you going by Priest now? Hi Dragon...Chimera, sorry), and what the tiers for these classes are called. We need to know in what order the game itself arranges them on the Character creation screen and/or Data Shop entries. We need to know all of the unique classes in the game even.

I'm going to be honest, this seems to be basically a symptom of us trying to rush out and cover the Disgaea 5 info as fast as we can, trying to have everything in place before we have things to put into place even. Making character pages? Good. Making class pages? Character specific class pages? Templates? Fine, but do we have the information to fill them in?

Do we have the information? Can we get it? If not, no one is going to blame us for not having pages up. Game isn't even out in English. Heck, the English promotional website isn't even up yet (as of this writing, it's a promo page promising that the full site is coming soon)

Like, I would but I know jackshit about wiki editing.

Here, a google translated page with the stats of the 'unique' characters, obvious spoilers abound.

Today's post is brought to you by the letter 'E', for Efficiency.

The one of the biggest pieces of the thought process behind T2C is: "why go to multiple pages for info on the same related thing? Why have 7 tabs open, for Archclass, Tier1, Tier2, etc, when all that information can (and should!) be displayed on a single page?" That same thought process can be applied to "Character vs Class."

Take these guys, to start with: Seraph Lamington - the Character. Seraph - the Class. Vulcanus_(Disgaea) - the Character. Archangel (Disgaea) - the Class.Don Joaquin - the Character. 1st Defender - the Class.

What is the value of a page? What is the worth of an article? Why are those class pages worth existing on their own? Don Joaquin shows up for like 10 minutes in the game, but he gets two pages about him? If it weren't for one image in the Gallery, his Character template would be three times taller than the rest of the data on the page. And that's in Oasis; in Monobook, the text doesn't even get past the images.

Vulcanus is at least someone who really matters in the game, but look how little information there is on his class page. There is a single sentence. What more can be said? What more needs to be said? I argue in favor of, 'nothing more needs to be said.' (Yes, that's hilarious, coming from me, I know.) Or at the very least, there's just not enough that can possibly be there to make it worth being a separate page.

Seraph Lamington is also an important character, but from a gameplay standpoint, the player interacts less with him than with Vulcanus; don't you fight Vulcanus twice? It's been years since I played D1, and hubby's playthrough isn't anywhere close to that part of the story. If a user wants to know something about Seraph Lamington, why must they visit two pages to get that information?

It's far better to consolidate closely-related information -- especially when the individual pieces of that information are basically the same thing -- so that a user only needs to visit one page.

Here are some additional points for consideration:

World of Disgaea, the D1 art/infobook (which I've actually owned since idk 2003? I just forgot about it for a long time, A+ me) doesn't even distinguish between 'character' and 'class', for the purposes of characters like 'Laharl', 'Etna', 'Seraph Lamington,' 'Don Joaquin'.

Disgaea 2: The Official Strategy Guide (DoubleJump) (which I have on long-term loan from a friend) does, technically, list things like 'Adell, Class: Demon Hunter,' 'Rozalin, Class: Zenon's Child.' But they also list each tier of each creatable class as 'Fighter, Class: Warrior,' 'Warrior, Class: Warrior', 'Destroyer, Class: Warrior,' etc. Laharl, Class: Overlord. Elenor (who even is this?), Class: Prophet. Serion, Class: Dark Priest. It feels like Class is there almost as an afterthought, a side note. "oh yeah, this thing exists about them because it has to for internal game-code reasons." Is there more than one 'Prophet' in D2?

Disgaea 3: The Official Strategy Guide (DoubleJump) (also on long-term loan from said friend) similarly lists 'Class' in that afterthought sort of way. Mr Champloo, Class: Home Ec Teacher. Could there be another Home Ec Teacher? Theoretically, I suppose. Is there? No. Is there any example, other than 'Overlord' and maybe-sorta the part where Kyoko and Asuka are both 'Raspberyl's Lackey's, where a Character's Class is shared by another significantly different Character, at any point in any game? Should there be only one 'Overlord' class page, that holds all the data for all the various characters that are Overlords? We don't even do that, we divvy it up, 'Overlord (Laharl),' 'Overlord (Baal)', 'Overlord (of the week)'.

If a person is playing, say, Disgaea:HOD, and they want information on what spells Etna can cast, are they going to come to this site and look up 'Beauty Queen' or whatever her class is? No, they're going to search for Etna -- and then read (or at least skim) that whole page, and maybe figure out that there's a link in the infobox that goes to her Class page. That's not efficient. If a person wants info on Fubuki, his stats or skills or how he plays, how likely are they to care that his 'class' is Ninja Master ? If a person is looking at Template:Disgaea 2 Classes, are they going to say, 'ah yes, Fallen Angel, that's what I want to know about'? Or are they going to be asking 'Why can't I click anything here that says Flonne?'

My overall point here is that for Story Characters, 'Character' has a higher value than 'the Class of a Character,' to the point where it's not worth making the distinction between the two. The '1st Defender' page shouldn't exist, that information should be rolled into the 'Don Joaquin' page. For that matter, even for very important Story Characters like Laharl or Flonne, there should be a way to fold all their 'classes' into their one page.

The preceding part of this post is mostly concerned with 'should it happen'. There's a lot to be said about 'how should it happen / what should it look like.' What I did with the merging, that was a test. A 'proof of concept'... an early-stage draft, at best. When dealing with short pages like Don Joaquin, we don't need to have two templates running down the right side of the page (ie, the 'character' template over the 'tierstats' template), making for a very very tall page that is still 75% white space. I pondered having the character template and the tierstats template be horizontally next to each other, depending on if the two float-rights played nice with each other, so something like this:

text text text text ------ ------

text text text text |tier| |char|

gallery text text ------ ------

Then I thought, 'you know, this /is/ what Tabber is for,' and then I put the two templates in a Tabber.

Yes, the differing widths caused alignment issues. I didn't then and I don't right now fully have a solution for that. My next thought would have been to try to put entire chunks of the page into a tabber, something akin to

|TAB1|tab2|

text about the character ------

text about the character |char|

text about the character ------

|tab1|TAB2|

text about the class ------

text about the class |tier|

text about the class ------

Or, eschew tabber outright and have it be more like

text about the character ------

text about the character |char|

==Section Header== ------

------ text about the class

|tier| text about the class

------ text about the class

==Gallery==

The challenge would be to figure out how to make a Style that will work for thin pages like Don Joaquin as well as beefy ones like Laharl.

So, why did I do several pages for something that was a rough idea? I was hoping for an energy boost from getting a sense of completion. I was getting burned out on the part where I was having to rewrite the regex so many times to take care of the D4 Hums, and I thought to myself, "if I can get something /done/, maybe that will give me what it takes to finish the Hums." I looked at the Template Disgaea Classes, and checked and saw that all the blue links in the Special and Enemy sections had been T2C'd, so I thought I would knock out the two or three redlinks. And, why create a page when you can make an existing page serve the function? Why have clutter when you can have merged sleekness? I just needed to, you know, work on the actual sleekness.

Yes, it's possible to go overboard, and have pages that have unrelated content on them. But, especially for these minor 'story' characters, Class and Character are just not sufficiently different to warrant having different pages. Players would hardly care about the different classes. And just as a tiny final note, it's a pain in the butt to be trying to compare the 'Template:Disgaea # Classes' redlinks to a strategy guide, where 'class' is a tiny little note and I have to look through about 20 pages to find the data on the character for the page I'm trying to make.

Tomorrow (or later; life is still a bit busy, but, you know, 'soon'), I'll set up some mocks in my sandbox, see if I can make some progress on some decent formatting. But here's my logic. What do yall think?

So I was poking the disgaea.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages?limit=500&offset=0 , down by where there are only 5 or fewer links to pages, because frequently that means a typo in a link or something else that's easily cleaned. I came across a few links to 'World of Disgaea', the D:HOD art/info book (that I actually own : o). I removed one link on the Prinny page, my initial thought being 'an article about an artbook, how would that even work?' Then I realized another link was on the main page. After backwards hunting through the history, I came across this:

disgaea.wikia.com/wiki/Disgaea_Wiki?diff=prev&oldid=13669

"Just because the article doesn't exist doesn't mean the topic is nonexistant. "The World of Disgaea" series is pretty important nongame media I say."

So...... I get the logic. Infobooks, artbooks, they're related to the games, why shouldn't we have info about them?

But the other side is, what do we say about them? Does each book have its own article-page on the site? What goes on each article-page? ie, how can each article have enough content to be 'worth' it? Do we encompass the comics or whatever, about D3?

I don't have a congealed thought about this. The best I have right now is, 'have one article that has two-equals-headers for each art/infobook, and just have cursory overview-info about each book.' I don't have a good idea what to call that article. I barely have an idea of what to say about each book. So I'll just leave this post here, in case anyone else wants to poke the thought with a stick... but you know, one last thought:

The link was originally placed in this edit - disgaea.wikia.com/wiki/Disgaea_Wiki?diff=prev&oldid=5693 - by Yuanchosaan in April 2009. In six years, nobody else has figured out what to do with such a page either : p.

For convenience in sorting and later splitting (as several classes who previously only appeared in one game are returning), here are a list of generic classes in Disgaea 5.

If I miss any, or if I write a name wrong, feel free to note in the comments and I'll correct it. (Names for new classes taken from the pagenames for their pages on the official Japanese site)

Returning (classes marked with * require splitting into game specific pages with a overall linking them)

Warrior

Valkyrie

Skull

Mage

Male Healer (they even keep the DD2 design and everything! No more design change every game!)

Female Healer

Archer

Samurai (Lady, to be specific)

Ninja

Armor Knight (still female)*

Gunner

Magic Knight

Thief

Martial Artist

Fight Mistress

Professor*

Male Angel*

Dragon(?)

New Classes

Dark Knight

Maid

Pirate

Sage

Wrestler

Fairy

Nine Tailed

Chimera

Imp

Grizzly

Rabbit Fighter

Cavalier

Dragon(?)

The Dragon pagename says Dragon, but it looks completely different than the traditional Dragon design (then again, this wouldn't be the first time they completely redesigned a class without any warning).

I am a bit puzzled on what to do about Armor Knights. Officially, both male and female are "Armor Knight", with no distinction between genders. The "Heavy Knight" term we use for the male is only used as the class for the Overall in Disgaea 2, D3 onward refers to him as "Armor Knight".

So what's the big deal? Unlike other "gender equivalent" classes, both Armor Knights have the exact same lore and they haven't appeared in a game together, giving the impression that the female class has flat out replaced the male class. I don't know how they match up in terms of stats, but they share at least one Evility as well.

(for the record, the only other class I can think of to be the sole version of a returning class but a different gender than in prior, the Male Samurai, still had different lore and attributes from the female from the get go, and the Lady Samurai reappeared pretty quickly anyway)

So my question: Do we continue to have them separate, or do we treat them as the same class, just with a gender change for DD2 and D5?